Logical Fallacies

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Before your eyes, I just destroyed the New True Scotsman Fallacy. I broke the ninth commandment, or did I commit apostasy? You have no grounds to judge me with your subjectively morality. Once again I have exposed your atheist hypocrisy!

— G Man - The Motherfucking Opera

Elves live in my shoes! See? My shoes exist, so there must be elves there![1]

— Ben gives an example of an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

Put simply, a logical fallacy is an pattern of reasoning inherently rendered false through an easy to express viewpoint on logic. An argument that contains a glaring fallacy is always considered wrong. You need look no further than the average Drunken Peasants antagonist to see the use of a fallacy in action. The Vigilant Christian and G Man are the most notable example of those who can't grasp when they've made a logical fallacy. The peasants have never partaken in it because they are gods.

Different types of fallacies commonly brought up on DP can be seen below:

Ad Hominem

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Ad Hominem (AdHom) is a logical fallacy, usually brought up as ultimate last resort by someone who refuses to admit their mistakes. It consists of calling bullshit on the person making the argument with unrelated claims on them, rather than refuting the argument itself.

Person 1: Cannabis kills people after the first time.
Person 2: It actually doesn't, here's why and evidence for it.
Person 1: You're a fucking stupid pothead who needs to get a life! Eat shit and die!
— An example of an Ad Hominem

IMPORTANT: Most retards mistakenly believe that every insult counts as an Ad Hominem. It's very important to note that making insults against your opponent does not count as an Ad Hominem if you have addressed their arguments. However, if you have ignored their arguments and basically used your insults as way to dismiss them, that's when they count as Ad Hominems.

Person 1: The globe Earth is a lie made up by the government to deceive people and divert them from the truth of the Bible! The Earth is flat!
Person 2: What? Are you really that fucking retarded you fucking imbecilic nutjob? The shape of the Earth is an oblate spheroid and here is mathematical, geometrical and visual evidence that proves it. Next time try to educate yourself before making ignorant comments you delusional fucktarded cuntwit.
— An example for when insults do not count as Ad Hominems

On Drunken Peasants

Tim Black's first video that was featured on the podcast was a response to TJ's video How To Come Out As An Atheist. The peasants refuted most of his arguments. Tim made a video afterwards in response to their commentary, which entirely consisted of him attacking TJ rather than the points he made against Tim. It is fair to say, though, that Tim turned out to be a pretty cool guy on Episode 37, and he discussed about various subjects with the peasants much more peacefully.

Tommy Sotomayor's first video that was featured on the podcast was a ridiculing narrative about a transgender kid who committed suicide. The peasants addressed his bullshit and transphobia as well as how incompetent he was as a supposed news reporter. Uncle Tommy's response completely ignored all the fair criticism sent his way, followed by a colossal race card by latching on a sarcastic remark TJ made regarding watermelons, as well as a display of how superior he is due to having a motherfucking badass garage.

No True Scotsman

No True Scotsman Fallacy

No True Scotsman is a logical fallacy used by just about every Christian who appears on Drunken Peasants. The fallacy usually takes the following form:

Batshit insane person: No Christian would do/believe X
Rational person (usually Paul or one of the peasants): I know Christians who do/believe X.
Batshit insane person: But they’re not real Christians!

After this exchange the batshit insane person typically begins to explain how their personal interpretation or made up definition is the ultimate truth and nobody can challenge it. Or, they switch to Ad Hominems.

Traditional Form

If you’re a nerd, the fallacy is a form of ad hoc reasoning upon the presentation of a successful counterexample. Instead of acknowledging the counterexample or refuting it, the claimant merely redefines the term so that the undesirable members are no longer part of the specified set. For example:

Person 1: For all members of set S, quality Q applies.
Person 2: But there is a person P, who is a member of set S for whom quality Q does not apply
Person 1: No. Person P is not a member of set S because Q does not apply.

On Drunken Peasants

Paul, the True Scotsman

Nearly any episode with a Christian guest will have the fallacy show up somewhere. If G Man is on the show, the likelihood this fallacy will be invoked is directly proportional to the amount of time G Man is allowed to speak. Much like triangular compositions in visual media and basic color scales, this is something the average 4 year old can easily understand but is utterly incomprehensible to The Vigilant Christian.

Particularly egregious examples of Christian using the fallacy on the show include:

  • The Vigilant Christian in episodes 148 and 150 uses this to peddle his bullshit when the “that’s my worldview” shit ain’t flying. Both times he is called out by the True Scotsman.
  • Gail, any time someone points out that one of her men doesn’t know who the fuck she is, will claim that they aren’t the real person but are instead a Jesuit clone
  • G man, in probably the most famous example, first saying that starving children were not starving Christian children then going full master of stupidity by saying if there are starving christian children they aren’t real Christians.
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX6AQkzMoFg